Friday, March 11, 2011

March 10, 2011 'Glenn Beck': Michael Moore Declares Class War | Glenn Beck

  • March 10, 2011

    Special Guests | John Stossel, Pat Caddell

    This is a rush transcript from "Glenn Beck," March 10, 2011. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

     

    JUDGE ANDREW NAPOLITANO, GUEST HOST: Wisconsin's general assembly was finally able to approve stripping most collective bargaining rights from the state public workers after being disrupted most of the day by protestors. The Senate approved a similar bill yesterday. Governor Scott Walker says he'll sign the legislation as quickly as possible.

    Angry pro-union demonstrators have not only been disrupting the Democratic process, they have been issuing death threats like this one to Wisconsin's Republican leader, quote, "We have all planned to assault you by arriving at your house and putting a nice little bullet in your head." Wow! Take a look what else has been transpiring within the last 24 hours.

    (BEGIN VIDEO CLIPS)

    TEXT: Wisconsin Senators Voted.

    UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is a violation of law (INAUDIBLE), Mr. Chairman.

    TEXT: Here's how pro-Union forces reacted.

    (SHOUTING)

    TEXT: They climbed through Statehouse windows. They breached the Assembly chamber. They struggled with police. They're plotting what to do next.

    UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We've got to hit them right where it hurts. Right in their pocketbook.

    TEXT: Radical left-wing activist Michael Moore agrees.

    MICHAEL MOORE, FILMMAKER: The money's just not in the people's hands, it's in the hands of the rich. Just take a look at this, OK? Because this is what's coming for you because the people aren't going to take it anymore. They're going to demand that your ass is in jail. You've taken our money. We want the money back.

    UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How many more people do you think they can throw out of their homes before they do revolts?

    TEXT: Moore encourages students to revolt.

    MOORE: There's going to be a massive student walkout Friday afternoon. The nationwide student walkout of high schoolers. The last hour of school you walk out of that school.

    (END VIDEO CLIPS)

    NAPOLITANO: Wow. Reaction now from John Stossel, my colleague, and host of "Stossel" on the Fox Business Network. And Pat Caddell, former pollster for Jimmy Carter before he saw the light and became a Fox News contributor.

    Gentlemen, welcome here. What is Michael Moore trying to do there? What kind of disruption is he trying to bring about?

    JOHN STOSSEL, FOX BUSINESS NETWORK ANCHOR: Obstruct (ph) us, I'm ready. I'm going to lock you up.

    NAPOLITANO: Oh, my goodness, --

    STOSSEL: You rich people.

    NAPOLITANO: -- I should have known you'd have the props here. But the suggestion that because somebody is rich, they belong in jail. Does he look in a mirror when he says that?

    STOSSEL: It's -- you know, he's not as rich as the Forbes 400 and it's why we need economic education because people -- politicians think this way. Their world is a zero-sum game. One person wins, somebody else loses.

    They don't -- it's not intuitive to understand that these rich people don't take from others, that they create wealth.

    NAPOLITANO: Do politicians even understand that the government consumes wealth, but private enterprise creates wealth? Take a dollar out of private enterprise and add it to -- give it to the tax man. That's a dollar less that could be made into more of a dollar.

    PAT CADDELL, FMR. POLLSTER FOR PRESIDENT CARTER: No, not really. I mean, I remember Barney Frank gave a speech last year to business people telling them how government would help them. This is the government's job to make the economy work and what their role in it was.

    This is a problem -- they -- look, our politicians don't understand very much of anything, I think, sometimes as they've proved in the last few days.

    STOSSEL: But most people don't understand. It's not intuitive.

    CADDELL: No, they don't. It's not intuitive, but we don't educate anybody about anything. And that's the --

    STOSSEL: Oliver Stone movies.

    NAPOLITANO: Right. That's the extent of education. Do you think these protests are going to get worse? I mean, this guy is calling for children to leave their schools on a Friday afternoon. You talk about endangering the welfare of a minor. What is his bag?

    STOSSEL: I'm not in the prediction business. That's his bag. All right? I won't go there. I don't know what will happen.

    NAPOLITANO: All right. But, obviously, people need to understand that this is not going to help America when this kind of thing happens.

    CADDELL: No. I mean, you're seeing things blow up today in a way -- you know, you would have thought it was the Tea Party that's happened at the state Capitol of Madison based on last year's coverage of the mainstream media of protests.

    But, no, this is going to get -- this is going to get worse because there's a belief that you could move this now in the streets. It's an insane belief. This is a misunderstanding of the public opinion in this country. The Republicans -- let me just say this -- had done the worst job ever to make their case.

    Go back to the point John just made about education. To explain the difference as Chris Christie did two weeks ago --

    NAPOLITANO: You know, I --

    (CROSSTALK)

  • CADDELL: -- between teachers and teachers unions.

    NAPOLITANO: You know, I think the Republicans in Wisconsin did a terrible job.

    CADDELL: Awful.

    NAPOLITANO: They did the right thing legally, but politically and from a PR point of view, they were awful.

    CADDELL: You must tell people what you're doing and why and you must explain what the cons of collective bargaining. And when you get the government --

    STOSSEL: But it wasn't -- it wasn't the best argument because they were saying, we don't want collective bargaining, but the cops and firemen can have it.

    I would think it would make more sense if they say, we don't want forced unionization.

    CADDELL: What they should have argued was, frankly, if the difference between what work rules mean, what collective bargaining means. Work rules -- I mean, you can't fire bad teachers. You can't -- you can't make government efficient. And it is -- and that's where you get (INAUDIBLE) yesterday $159,000 bus drivers.

    NAPOLITANO: This state -- this state, Wisconsin, is the birthplace of progressivism. This is in their veins, in their genes. This is -- this is their culture. Can it be changed with two votes and a governor's -- and a governor's signature? Or is this near-violence that we have been observing in the past three weeks going to be perpetual until the mob gets its way?

    STOSSEL: Well, again, I won't predict the future, but this sense of entitlement --

    NAPOLITANO: Right.

    STOSSEL: -- that gets them out there saying, how dare you --

    (CROSSTALK)

    NAPOLITANO: (INAUDIBLE) had that since the Bob La Follettes, you know, that the government will take care of you.

    STOSSEL: And the idea that they represent labor. Their signs say, we represent the middle class. Well they represent maybe 12 percent of laborers.

    NAPOLITANO: Didn't Chris Christie put his finger on it when he said, my beef is not with the hardworking people here, my beef is with the leadership of the unions?

    CADDELL: (INAUDIBLE) he did and this is what I don't understand the - - because the unions have been able to do -- and this is where I fault the governor -- but, first of all, let's --

    NAPOLITANO: You're talking about Walker?

    CADDELL: Governor Walker. Wisconsin -- the culture of Wisconsin is what you said. You're changing the culture of place. If you're going to do that, you need to educate and explain because the people are basically, I think in the end, with him until it looks like you've allowed the unions to seize the emotional high ground, which is what they did.

    NAPOLITANO: Pat Caddell, John Stossel, it's a pleasure. Thank you.

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