February 25, 2011 Beck: Practice What You Preach | Glenn Beck

February 25, 2011 Beck: Practice What You Preach | Glenn Beck With: Glenn Beck Special Guests | Rabbi Daniel Lapin, Reverend James Robison, Dave Roever This is a rush transcript from "Glenn Beck," February 25, 2011. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.   GLENN BECK, HOST: Well, hello, America. All week, I've been telling you about the perfect storm, the combination of things that we have fought before in this nation. And because we are such a resilient people, we have been able to bounce back from horrible, horrible economies. Even horrible economies during the Great Depression and war. But now, we have extremist Islam that is also putting pressure on us, the border. We told you earlier in week that now on the border, we have extremist Islam. Hezbollah from Iran has now united with many of the drug cartels. And they say they can get anything across the border at any time. We also have a problem with energy. Oil prices are going up, political correctness and enemies within. And -- honestly, where is the defender in our way of life? Where else on Planet Earth is there anyone talking about a republic, that is talking about the free market system? Where is the flame of the Statue of Liberty that's called "Imprisoned Lightning"? That's what it is. Where is that flame? We are at a tipping point. We've seen protests in Wisconsin spread from state to state. Van Jones has called on the, quote, "powers that be" in both parties to come together in solidarity with the workers in Wisconsin. He says organized workers, business leaders, veterans, students, youth, faith leader, civil rights fighters, women's rights champion,, immigrant right defenders, LBGTQ stalwarts, environmentalists, academics, artists, celebrities, community activists, elected officials and more -- he says they all need to come together and stand up for what is right. He goes on to say, quoting, "This is our Tea Party movement in a positive sense." America, we are living in a country that I said two years ago, before the election of Barack Obama, I said there's going to come a time when you wake up in America and you won't recognize it anymore -- that's when George Bush was president. I am not sure what this country stands for anymore. I'm not sure what our neighbors stand for anymore. And I think that's why we're disconnecting from each other in Washington, because it's all the same. Now more than ever, we need to figure things out. The rain has begun to fall in the perfect storm. It has begun. And we, each of us have a responsibility. I happen to be a member of a faith that believes that we all came here with a purpose. We all have a role to play. We all have problems that we're supposed to conquer. But the problems are things that teach us. And they become -- I don't know how many times I've said this and thought of this: I'm a guy that's riddled with flaws and by taking my flaws out and putting it in the refiner's fire and letting the bellows of life heated up, I get the opportunity to pound on my flaws and try to perfect it. Your flaws become strength. Weakness becomes strength if you work at it. And I think it is our weaknesses that we're supposed to learn from, that will lead us in the right direction. But we have to admit our problems and admit our weaknesses and then play our role. If you are a preacher, isn't it about time you start preaching? And tell the truth. Tell people that there are consequences for actions, because all of the problems that we have here, these are some of the things that we're dealing with. I just want mine. I'll never forget it. There was an article I think it was "Newsweek" magazine, about a year ago, from a guy who was talking, he was 20 and he was talking about health care. And he said, "I just want mine, grandma, you've had yours." Wow! How did we -- how did we get there? Debt -- we all talk about the spiraling debt in Washington, but how's your debt? Social justice -- does anybody even know what this is about? How is it we can have a president talk to youth about collective salvation and nobody really is outraged by that? Where are the churches? Where is God? Mideast and Israel. The cleric is saying, hey, I'm going to shoot the Jew if Allah would give me strength. The Muslim Brotherhood -- our president says it's not a problem. Are we on the wrong side as a nation for the first time? Wis-Cairo is what the left is now calling Wisconsin. We have teachers going up against teachers. We're pitting ourselves against each other. Actually, we're not. Revolutionaries are. It's 1968 all over again. But there are some things in 1968 that we have and no longer have that we should discuss. Tonight, I want to introduce you to four good friends of mine. And I want to start actually with David Barton. He is -- David is from WallBuilders. He's the founding member of the Present Day Black Robe Regimen, which all four of these men are part of. But, David, you come up, I want to have you go through this. I'm going to introduce everybody else here in a second. But I want David, because this is really where it begins. We know exactly -- we know that if you -- if you leave Islam and you are really into Islam, they'll behead you if you leave Islam. We know about that. We know what's happening in the Middle East and the Muslims are standing up for what they believe in -- and some of them a little forcefully. I'm surprised that the Jewish community, how they are not talking more and screaming from every rooftop what is happening in Israel right now and all around Israel. And the Christians -- where are they? David, show these numbers. DAVID BARTON, WALLBUILDERS: These numbers with Christians, of course, there's about 72 percent of the nation says it's Christian. And you got the categories: Born again Christian, evangelical Christians, all the different groups. Born again is considered to be a really serious Christian by most account. And so, what you have is when you look at divorce rate in America, the divorce rate in America for born again Christians is 27 percent. For the rest of the way, it's 24 percent. For atheists and agnostics, it's 21 percent. So, the highest divorce rate is among born again Christians. And the lowest is among atheists. Where is the failure? The Scriptures is clear that job doesn't like divorce. Jesus repeats that several times in New Testament and Old Testament. It's all over. By the way, 87 percent of Christians who got -- 87 percent of those who got divorced were became Christians before they got divorced. In another words, 87 percent got divorced after they became Christians. That's not good numbers for living our faith. Lying -- over the past month, only 35 percent of Christians say they have not deliberately told a lie in the past month. When asked why they would lie, the reason number one was, well, if I told the truth, it would devastate my friends. So, I'd rather lie than tell the truth. BECK: Hang on -- wait, wait. Does that count, like, oh, honey, I know that looks great on you? BARTON: That's' called a self-defense. BECK: It is self-defense. That's not lying. That's self-defense. BARTON: That's self defense. BECK: All right. BARTON: But it wouldn't be that kind of stuff. It would be rather than offending somebody. BECK: OK. BARTON: I don't want to offend somebody and we're so scared of offending. So, reason number one is -- if I told the truth, it'd devastate my friend. The reason number two is -- well, it's a lie but it's only a little thing and God doesn't care about little things. So, we kind of brush that aside. Reason number three for Christians a terrible reason but third reason was -- well, I lied, I know it's a sin, but that's why Jesus died for me. So, since my religion covers that, I'll just keep lying. Bad stuff. Two hundred and fifty thousand abortions a year are performed on born again Christians. And Scriptures are really clear on positions of abortion. There's actually, in polling, 70 different moral behaviors that have been checked and there's no substantial between with Christian moral behavior and those that are not Christian moral behavior. About 50 percent of Christians participate and actively use porn -- physical abuse, about the same number; adultery about the same numbers. There's no difference in Christians who used astrology and fortune-telling, et cetera, and those who are not. So, there's just really no substantial difference. And that's not living our faith. BECK: OK. Come down here for a second. Now, let me introduce you to Rabbi Daniel Lapin. He is the president of American Alliance for Jews and Christian. We have Reverend James Robison. He is co-author of new book, "Living in Love," with his wife Betty. And Dave Roever, he is decorated Vietnam vet and founder of the Roever Foundation. All right. So, guys, all I want to do is bring you in because I think our country is screwed and it's screwed if we don't -- if we don't find the moral fiber in ourselves and start living what we preach. And if we don't have people in the temple and on the pulpit and on TV saying, this is a deal, man. This is wrong. So, let me start with what I had up there. First, where is the church and the synagogues? Where are they on this stuff? Anybody want to take that? RABBI DANIEL LAPIN, AMERICAN ALLIANCE FOR JEWS & CHRISTIAN: Well, Glenn, you, in the past, have effectively identified a disturbing fact that fills me with not only embarrassment but deep sadness, which is that very large portions of the American-Jewish community care far more about liberalism in America than they do about the safety and security of Israel. As a matter of fact, if a proverbial genie popped out of a bottle and made an offer to the American-Jewish community in total, saying, "Here's the deal -- America, reject abortion. America, reject homosexual marriage. And in exchange, Israel has perpetual tranquility and security" -- more than half of American Jews would say no deal. BECK: So, let me go back to the question. What happened? What happened? Where are the -- where are the preachers? REV. JAMES ROBISON, LIFE OUTREACH INTERNATIONAL PRESIDENT: I think evangelical Christians have made the tragic mistake of hiding the light of God's truth under a covering of conformity, of comfort, compatibility and compromise. Jesus would put light on a lamp stand. Light pierces the darkness. It illuminates the way. It exposes the wrong. Men live in darkness rather than the light because their deeds are evil. I really do believe that we have gotten comfortable, and we have not pierced the darkness from the truth of God. We'd now become the city set on the hill that cannot be hid. We have not made the necessary difference. One of the things that I watch with the Christians is the fact that, you know, they take the statement of Jesus that he sent us a sheep in midst of wolves and somehow, we seem to be misinterpreting that to mean that we've been sent to the slaughter. What he's actually saying, I'm sending you sheep in midst of wolves and in these dark communities, you are to go in the shadow of the Almighty and the shelter of the shepherd's watch, care and oversight, and who we live with the weight of his presence and his power then he is going to lead us to repentance. And like you said earlier when you opened, our weaknesses can become our strengths, because he will enable us. I really believe in the divine enabling of God in his grace to help us achieve those things which seem are difficult, which includes making a difference in the world. He said that believers were not to be overcome by the gates of destruction. We are to literally storm the gates of hell. All we're doing is like the churches did in Germany. They sang louder so they wouldn't hear the cries of the Jews as they went by. And church today is simply singing louder while we are headed on the road to destruction. If we don't repent in turn, you can't predict too much doomsday. But there's hope if we'll turn to God. BECK: Let me ask this: how many people go to church every Sunday? OK. I didn't for a long time, most of my life, because I was like -- I mean, I can get that from HBO. Everything is relative and I can keep my sweatpants on and eat Doritos. Why am I going to church on Sunday? You know what I mean? Churches have become afraid to tell the truth. BARTON: Let me hit something as a parallel for a minute, because in the 20th century, if you look at courts, courts have gone from being courts of justice to being courts of law to being courts. There was a time when justice was the objective no matter what happened and juries had the power to turn over laws as well as verdicts. It was simple. We got to where the Supreme Court said, no, jury shouldn't judge the law anymore. We'll judge the law. We'll tell you what it is, you guys just uphold, so we could became courts of law. We weren't after justice, we're after upholding whatever the law is. Now, we are, by legal definition, into what are called courts. When you look up the word "court," it says place to settle a dispute. So, we're not after upholding the law, we're not upholding justice, we just want to end disputes. And that's what's happening in the pulpit. We have been taught in the seminaries that we don't want to get people offended. You want to keep it nice and peaceful at church, keep all the disputes settle. If you are going to start telling the truth, you start making people stand up and make people feel uncomfortable. But people have to know the truth. I mean, as you talk about in faith, hope and charity, if the doctor comes in and says you're fine when you got cancer, that's not the truth and that doesn't give you hope. And it's a real problem. But we have move -- just as we move in courts down to where we settle a dispute, churches move to where, oh, we can't offend anybody. Well, we can't say anything hard. We can't speak the truth because that will make somebody mad. And that's part of the problem we had in the 20th century, is moving away from absolute truths. BECK: Dave? DAVE ROEVER, VIETNAM VET: Well, first of all, hi, Glenn. BECK: How are you? ROEVER: I give a gift for you. BECK: Thank you. ROEVER: That's from the war zone. Those are called -- hope bracelets is what I call them. You said the keyword. Doc, I'm going to tell you something -- you for to me forever a mentor. And when you said the word "hope," that's when this conversation has the possibility of bringing instead of all the negative, which we are, we do have to acknowledge. But I look at 27 percent divorce among Christians and I say, whoa, what is that? Sixty-three? Seventy-three percent? I was in the top 10 percent of the lower-one third of my class -- 73 percent don't go through divorce. I look at the line. And you know what? That's 65 percent that didn't lie. BECK: But I think -- but I think David's point is atheists, which, you know, a Christian will tell you, oh, you look -- oh, atheist. ROEVER: Sure. BECK: They're, I don't know, better. ROEVER: You know why, because they don't have anything to argue about. They don't have anything to disagree about. (LAUGHTER) LAPIN: -- which is I really do believe that that statistic is a little flawed, David, with respect -- I believe it's flawed because I think there is a bias towards depicting those of faith, particularly Christians, in a bad light. And the reason that atheists show such a low divorce rate is because atheists have a very low marriage rate. Obviously, when the question is asked, have you ever been divorced? Obviously a whole lot of people will say no because the question doesn't say have you also been married? ROEVER: They just live together and happy ever after. BECK: Come on, you guys can't -- I mean, you were on the radio show and you brought up an -- you brought up an interesting discussion when you and your wife left -- because I had dinner with this gentleman last night. And my wife said about you and your wife, when we left, one of the most genuine people we know, when you got on the air, we had a little bet us, how long will it take before you start bearing your testimony of Jesus? And it was 12 seconds. We all lost. I think the earliest one is 30 seconds. And we are talking about how that is uncomfortable and trying to figure out why sometimes that's uncomfortable. You want to -- you want somebody to believe, but not so much. It's like people with the pocket Constitutions. I have the pocket Constitution and you're like, OK, Constitution boy, freak boy. You want that, though, you want that, but not too much. And here's the point -- you know and I know, there's been a lot of Christians that have said over, oh, you got, oh, Jesus saves. Jesus saves. And then there -- I don't know what, they must be saving their fidelity for something else, because they are off with somebody else. So, they're doing something else on Sunday. And so, you kind of get uncomfortable because you're like, OK, people -- a lot of Christians will say one thing but they will do something entirely different. BARTON: And that's part of what happens. And there's -- I don't want to say this -- that there are responsibilities that goes with having faith. And one of the things that the pollsters look at on why divorce rate would be lower with atheists and Christians, is Christians say, oh, let's pray about it. We hey pray and problem doesn't get fixed, and so, we say, well, God must want us to be divorce, because they don't put the work and effort into what it takes that one of them is going to have to change or two of them have to change, maybe they got to do some things different. For atheists, there's really kind of no out. Who are they going to pray to, to fix the problem? They got to solve it. And what happens is Christians, a lot of times, will pray and if it doesn't get -- if their prayer doesn't get answered, we're not going to work to do something. And see, that's a character flaw. I mean, we say, hey, we love the Ten Commandments. Go to your neighbor who claims to be a Christian and say, can you list the Ten Commandments? If they list three, they've done really good. Now, we want the Ten Commandments in schools. We want the Ten Commandments on monuments. We have lawsuits over Ten Commandments. Can we name what they are so that we live by them? BECK: When I come back, I'm just going to randomly pick people from the audience, because we remember who raised their hands "I go to church every Sunday." Can you name the Ten Commandments? In just a second. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) (MUSIC) BECK: With me now, four of my favorite people: David Barton, Rabbi Daniel Lapin, Reverend James Robison and Dave Roever, who is not a preacher. How do you describe yourself? ROEVER: Well, I do preach. My wife says I do a good job on her. I am for the United States military. I am DOD contractor and I'm a resiliency coach with comprehensive training program -- a comprehensive training for soldiers -- which includes five pillars. One of those pillars is spiritual. And I train in the area of spiritual resiliency and physical resiliency and psychological resiliency and marital resiliency. I've been married 43 years to the same girl. When I came home, she didn't know who I was when I came home from the war. She looked at me and said that's not him, I'm saying, yes, this is him! You know? But she just -- had no face. My skull stuck out here and my head was the length of my shoulder and you could see my heart beat. She said that's -- that's not him. And then she bent down and kissed what was left in my face and looked me in my good eye and she said, that's him. I made it 43 years with the same woman. When we're married, we were virgin and we're still married. You thought, I would say virgin. So, it's resiliency. And my goal going back to Dr. Robison, his statement about hope is the key to everything we're trying to see here, and you harp on it all the time. Hope is the great resiliency in the human race. If we put the truth in the middle, that's why whenever they call me to come speak at these -- as a resiliency coach, they don't ask me to talk about religion I don't know anything about. They ask me to talk about Jesus Christ, the son of God, who I have beloved with all my heart, who I believed died for me and rose from the dead and is coming back for me. I'm going there and I talk that to these guys. And they come out of their funk. They are coming home and committing suicide and losing their marriage. My job is to stop that on the battlefield before they get home. And if these kids under the intense scrutiny and crucible of war and suffering and pain and loneliness, dear God, it can work for anybody in the country. It's a message of hope, Glenn. BECK: May I ask -- may I ask you this? Last weekend, I met with Reverend Billy Graham. And he has such hope. He sat in his chair with me and he doesn't break eye contact. And he said, "I have such peace." And I can tell he did -- had such peace. And he said, "I have such hope." He said, "I'm not afraid of death. I'm a little worried about the whole dying part, but death I'm not afraid of." And I asked him and he didn't -- maybe he didn't understand the meaning behind it. This is more of a personal question: What I do every day is point out the truth and it's ugly and it is dark and it makes people feel hopeless. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And it will set you free. BECK: But how -- where's the -- how do -- I how do I possibly bring a message of hope? ROBISON: This morning, talking about the truth of the catastrophic consequences of totally ignoring the biblical justice and biblical truth. That's why this rabbi and I can sit here. A lot of people say it seems that you have a rapport and you love one another because we believe in the God of Abraham and Isaac and Jacob, and he understands the impact Christians should be making, and must make if we're going to have much in the future. We understand the importance of the foundation here. I'm going to tell you, there's a bigger miracle this morning. This is a classic Pentecostal sitting by a Baptist, fundamentalist Baptist. I'm sitting here with an incredible historian who comes also from (INAUDIBLE) you'd say an independent background. But we are all here as a family and we're sitting here with a more Mormon on television, where we know theologically we could have some very heated discussions. I'm going to tell you something about our discussion. The love of God that's in my heart for you is beyond my ability to aptly describe. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Me, too. ROBISON: And by the grace of God, can I demonstrate. And I just happen to believe you love this nation. And when you say I am seeking truth and you say to everybody else out here, seek the truth. If you keep pursuing the truth and seeking the truth, you're going to continue to find the truth and you're going to continue (INAUDIBLE) that journey. And I'm saying to a whole Christian community, let's come together and quit fighting one another, let's come together for common purpose. Hone the edge. Let's cut through gates of hell and destruction, and let's be the city set on a hill. Now, that's what I hear you calling for. I hear you crying out, where is that city? Where are those people who love God and love another? And I really believe you see a little microcosm, a little mini-demonstration. LAPIN: But, Glenn, your life -- your life testifies to the fact that spiritual -- the springs of spiritual regeneration run deep and can never be closed. BECK: OK. ROEVER: Let me just say this to you. I'll confirm his word from my own mouth. When they called today, I had no idea I was going to be in New York right now. I had to get a private plane to get me here. It probably cost me $8,000 to make this trip. I don't give a rip. I don't care what it cost. When they say, are you willing to do that? I said, I' will do anything for Glenn Beck I can as long as he continues to tell the truth about what our nation is facing and who are our true enemies are. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Right. ROEVER: And I watch and I listen to you. And until you contradict yourself and just blow it, you've got my support. Or until I contradict it and blow it, you're here to support me. BECK: Back in just a minute. (APPLAUSE) (COMMERCIAL BREAK) (NEWSBREAK) BECK: With me now, David Barton, Rabbi Daniel Lapin, Reverend James Robinson and Dave Roever. Before we get to all the happy talk about how everything great and hopeful it is, would you all agree with me that we are facing powerful evil that we haven't seen in the world do you think ever? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Not in our generation. BECK: Yes, not in our generation. I mean, when - you know, back in the '30s, I think people thought it and saw it. ROBISON: It's worse than 1980 when we finally recognized together that we had a serious threat to freedom. We recognize an enemy on the outside. It brought us together a little bit like the day after 9/11 when we came together, but we really came to our senses. Right now, we have an enemy committed that's committed destroying everything we believe. BECK: Freedom on the entire planet. ROBISON: Yes, but we have an enemy within. We have the forsaken the founding principles. We have forsaken the truth. The enemy is within. We take lightly the truth. We take lightly the Judeo Christian principles among which our nation is built. BARTON: We had enemies before, but we had a common set of values that we relied on. But now we have progressive nonsense in additional to all the Islamic extremism and we have to fight inside and outside. We never had to do that before. LAPIN: Perhaps just a thought of the hope and the good news, which is, yes, we are facing the fierce fanatics and frenzied fiends bent on our destruction. BECK: I think we are actually facing -- I feel it, a force of evil. There is something too good -- was anybody at 8-28 down in Washington? You felt that good, didn't you? You felt that good. So there is something when you gather people, it compounds on itself. ROBISON: -- your accountants testify against you. Even the accountants are people who are walking with their fist in the face of God. By the way, his grace allows you to live in his face. You're going to pay consequences for those terrible decisions. So this is what we see right now. That is an open rebellion against truth and against the word and the will of God. LAPIN: You feel hopeful sometimes. The thought seems immense and I think part of the hope is that as ancient Jewish wisdom teachers when it came time for Moses to lead Israelites out of Egypt, amazingly enough, only 20 percent of the Jews followed him out, 20 percent. That's ancient Jewish wisdom it's reliable. That means the entire basis of civilization in the world that came down from God to Moses on Mount Sinai came to only 20 percent who were willing to step forward, willing to say I don't mind feeling like a rhinoceros in a petting zoo. I'm willing to standout -- BECK: American revolution. BARTON: About 25 percent. Only about 25 percent of Americans supported the patriot cause, about 25 percent who were on the other side and about 50 percent who were just ambivalent and see which way it falls. So it was again a minority 20 percent. BECK: We have to be committed. You have to be committed. ROBISON: Let me address the conspiracy. You're talking about conspiracy, the great conspiracy you refer to - I've read in the "New York Times." In one of your books that you, I hope everybody has read. You have one of your key spokesperson is talking about the real power is the principality of the heavenly rant. That is the real conspiracy. That is the powers of deception. We have to bring kingdom of light to bear on that. A kingdom of truth and that means people are going to have to stand up. We can no longer sit under that covering and hide that light anymore. Now it's time for us to come together. Here's the key. I can say this very emphatically to everyone. Let me borrow the camera for a moment. The only hope that America has is for people who truly understand the absolute importance of faith, of family, of freedom that, which in my opinion includes a healthy free market that is not greed control, greed vulnerable because it works. It's going to include that group coming together. That is why we appreciate it. By the way, it's only in this country that Islamic people who are not radical extremist want to do with it and have the right to worship freely because they are destroyed by their own overseas in the Middle East. It's here that we have the greatest freedom. So we're talking about faith. We're talking about faith, but it is the Judeo-Christian principle that was a rock solid foundation that was so solid and unshakable and atheists signed off on it and Judea signed off on it and they stood on solid ground. And we've been building on that foundation. We have forsaken it. If we don't return to that foundation, I really believe we're in more trouble that we can describe. ROEVER: Can I quote Ronald Reagan? I wrote this down and I think would be appropriate right now. This is Reagan's statement, freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God is acknowledged. This is going back to our original beliefs. Finding what we were built on. Let us outlast any other democracy in all the human race. No government has lasted as long as we have. As a result, we go back to where we started. We can continue the future. One other thing, too. You guys do this better than me, but there is some statement, somewhere that I've heard over and over that about 20 percent of the church pays for 80 percent of the church who don't pay and 80 percent of the church are there -- I hate to use the language that went with that statement. But they're feeding off -- you only have two of them as man and woman and they're feeding off of them. Everybody else is paying for their -- you know what I'm saying? When I go back to this, I hope that didn't confuse you. But when I go back to this I'm saying that it's the percentage that don't cave. It's the percentage that are sitting in the studio that are involved enough to show off -- it's these people and people around the world in the churches of that 20-25 percent. That's what is going to make the difference. BECK: Right. ROEVER: I am in the most powerful minority on the face of the earth. I tell you someone said it was a silent majority. I'm not silent. I can tell you right now. I will speak until there is not a word. I want to slide through the gates of pearl with hair on fire and blisters on my feet because I went through hell to get there. I want ten people to replace me. I don't want to sit around and do nothing while this country is struggling. There are people just like us around the table. I'm proud of my black robe thing, whatever you call it. BECK: Back in a second. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) BECK: With me now, David Barton, the one and only. He makes people angry then we have Rabbi Daniel Lapin. He makes people crazy then we have James Robison who has written the book "Living in Love." His wife Betty is here in the audience. I want to point her out because they're celebrating 48 years. ROBISON: This week. By the way, the fact that he could be here with God-given concern for the nation and the future and the importance of us coming together with the heart harmony and I hold it to return us to sanity is us getting out from under taking care of our business someone else gives us the business, makes a difference in the nation. That is what the good family people will come out and be a difference maker. They have to do it. Quit sitting around. BECK: I have a feeling they will. Dave Roever is also here. This is Dave's book called "Scarred." Dave has one of the most amazing uplifting stories you will ever hear. Get the books now. Dave, where do you get yours? ROEVER: Online at roeverfoundation. That's R-O-E-V-E- Rfoundation.org. BECK: OK, now I said a few minute ago. Name the ten commandments so, you, Jack, the second row here looking up with the sweater. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I have a feeling that I'm going to be able to name a few that's for sure maybe not all of them. Thou shall not kill, though shall not steal, though shall not covet thy neighbor's wife. Though shall not bear false witness against another. I reached my limit at the moment. BECK: Four. Above average. OK. Who would you like to take it from there? Yes, in the back. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You shall have no other Gods before me. You shall not make unto yourselves graven images. Keep the Sabbath holy. Honor your mother and father. Do not commit adultery. Do not murder, do not steal and do not lie. BECK: OK, show-off. BARTON: Can I throw something in on this? BECK: Yes. BARTON: Because I've been involved in a bunch of cases with the U.S. Supreme Court on those ten things. It's interesting. The U.S. Supreme Court tells us that we can't post the Ten Commandments because they say there are five versions of the Ten Commandments. The great theologians and the court apparently know the five versions. They say there's a Jewish version. There's a Christian version. There's a Protestant version. There's an Orthodox and there's a Lutheran version, and therefore you can't have a display because one might be preferred -- they're all the same paragraph. It's just the numbers are different. So what happened -- on most of the monuments we had to defend in court the prologue says I'm the Lord thy God, that is the Christian version. But in the Jewish version, that is the first command. It's all there in content. The number is different. I really like the way the Jews do it because if you don't get that first one right, that he is God, then why shouldn't you kill someone. Why shouldn't you steal? It has to start recognizing God. BECK: So would you agree that the first thing we have to do to fix our country -- I said this for years on the air. If we would just do the top ten, if we could get those ten down, the lord is like still number ten, still waiting for number ten. You know, if we could get those top ten, we would change the country. LAPIN: I think this invisible web of Judeo-Christian morality rooted in the big ten still protects the thought of our country to this today. BECK: OK, I'm going to share one more thing. When we come back, I'll share one more thing. This is a book by Rabbi Daniel and Susan Lapin. This is fantastic. I have learned so much from it. I want to share something that he shared with all of us at dinner last night that I'd like you to consider doing with your family. Back in a minute. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) BECK: With David Barton, Rabbi Daniel Lapin, Reverend James Robison and Dave Roever. We were talking in the break, before I get to the rabbi. I don't know if you heard why the court says we can't have the Ten Commandments posted in school. Listen to this. BARTON: -- 1980, the U.S. Supreme Court said if the posted copies of the Ten Commandments were to have any effect at all it might be to induce the school children to read them. If they were to read them, they might meditate on them. If they meditate on them they might respect and obey them. That could be unconstitutional. Don't kill, don't steal, all those terrible things that hang in the court of law all over the country. It's OK to do the things just don't think about them. BECK: Right. So last night, I was having dinner. Was it you, David, that pointed out that we should have prayer after the meal? BARTON: Yes. BECK: I love this. This is the best. Explain, Rabbi. LAPIN: First of all, thank you for you and your wife for graciously arranging kosher food for Susan and me. I really appreciate it. BECK: Not a problem. By the way, kosher food -- LAPIN: Don't do it again. BECK: I mean, delicious every bite of it. LAPIN: At any rate, the actual writing in the Tora says you shall eat and be satisfied and bless the lord your God for the food. It leaves us to deduce the need to say grace before the meal, but the Tora emphasizes the need to say it after meals. The reason is it's not hard to induce really hungry people to pray. But when we are feeling good and full and satisfied with good food and good company as we were last night, it takes another thing to think now is the good time to acknowledge the boss and say thank you. BARTON: George Washington prayed twice, before the meal and after the meal. LAPIN: Right. BARTON: What was I thinking? LAPIN: The Jewish prayer, grace after meal essentially thanks god for an economic system that makes us all interdependent with one another, as Reverend Robison and I are talking about, when we're interdependent we can all eat. BECK: By the way, Doctor, how do we heal divisions between us and take a cattle prod to people in the seat of the pulpit? ROBISON: I said to you personally and I'll say it again, I don't mind you getting all fired up, plenty to get stirred up about. But the greatest strength is the love that throws through you like a river. It's clear and it is this love will tear down wall of division. You see it here in this room. I wouldn't find anyone in the room I won't love. I might not agree and I will never waiver or compromise, I'll stand firm. I believe we compromised the greatest power on the planet, the power of love. By dividing up and building walls, we don't let the love of Jesus penetrate barriers. We have to let it happen. BECK: What is really interesting is he stood with Dr. Martin Luther King. When he said that, I remember that's exactly what Martin Luther King used to say. Look at the change he made in the world. Back in a minute. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) BECK: When we return to a people of, as George Washington said, of merit, things will change. When we unite, we will fix and heal ourselves and our country and lead the world again. It's about to happen expect miracles. From New York, good night, America. Content and Programming Copyright 2011 Fox News Network, LLC. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Copyright 2011 CQ-Roll Call, Inc. All materials herein are protected by United States copyright law and may not be reproduced, distributed, transmitted, displayed, published or broadcast without the prior written permission of CQ-Roll Call. You may not alter or remove any trademark, copyright or other notice from copies of the content.   Carl Ray Louk "FRIENDSHIP NEVER ENDS" SG-1996 "LET LOVE LEAD THE WAY" SG-2000 "THE PHOENIX SHALL RISE" SD "EVEN A MAN WHO IS PURE IN HEART AND SAYS HIS PRAYERS BY NIGHT, MAY BECOME A WOLF WHEN THE WOLFBANE BLOOMS AND THE AUTUMN MOON IS BRIGHT." 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